Nelson Street / Priory Lane

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Postby delbert » 19 Aug 2005, 18:26

hi just thought you,de like to know
" the valiant sailor pub" as in baines picture was once occupied by my grandparents (bert & lucy brown) mum remembers little of this as she was a young child (but she does remember that the place was riddled with rats )
it wasnt a pub then ,later they then moved to queen street,and lived at 21 which was once again an old pub (the three crowns) .
I can remember grandparents at this address ,and me and my sis used to play in thier yard and also in the alley to quay,we were allways told not to go onto quay as at that time there were railtracks and railwagons being shunted about whilst being loaded with grain :D

p.s. the three crowns license expired in 1925,,,the valiant sailor closed in iether 1914 or 1915

off on hol sunday :D :D :D so will be out of it for a fortnight :(
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Postby CC » 19 Aug 2005, 18:59

DB,
thanks for the info.........have a good hol!
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Postby EWW » 25 Oct 2006, 11:40

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Postby old-git » 26 Oct 2006, 04:59

Lovely pic, I can't quite make out the date but guess it must be 1924, what with the woman flashing her legs an'all. Although the pic looks older.
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Postby EWW » 26 Oct 2006, 07:22

Enhanced the pic as best I could, but I'm no expert with photoshop
as you know :wink:
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Postby EWW » 10 Nov 2006, 09:52

WALTER DEXTER ARTIST LIVED IN THE OLD VAIANT SAILOR PUB.
AND THE PAINTING HE IS WORKING ON IS THE PICTURE THAT
TED POSTED.

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Postby EWW » 11 Nov 2006, 11:05

ANOTHER VIEW

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Postby delbert » 18 Oct 2007, 17:29

another old pic

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Gable

Postby teddybear1959 » 18 Oct 2007, 19:54

Has anyone found a date for when that gable was added over the courtyard entrance? Early pictures show that the roof had a row of dormer windows but at some time, (c1905?) that gable was added.


Lovely buildings and great photographs.

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Postby Harassed » 19 Oct 2007, 19:17

old-git wrote:Black Shouk the dog of nightmares!!! :shock: . Sounds interesting, hope more info comes to light. 8)

My farther says they used to say it was haunted but he does not know by what. He says when he was a lad, not to many people liked to use the ally at night :shock: .


Maybe I’m barking up the wrong tree :roll: but could the dog be “Black Shuck” it’s said that he haunts the coast between Hunstanton and Cromer but a visit to Kings Lynn would only be a short lope for such a ghostly hound.
It’s not advisable to go looking for him :smt031 as it’s believed that if you set eyes on him you will be dead within the year :eek

Probably best to send someone you’re not fond of to look for him then.


Black Shuck.
Demon dogs have haunted the East of England for over a thousand years. Known as Black Shuck or Old Shuck, he is described as the size of a calf, with a shaggy coat and flaming eyes.

The poem below is, supposedly, an old Norfolk saying describing Black Shuck.

And a dreadful thing from the cliff did spring,
and its wild bark thrill'd around,
His eyes had the glow of the fires below,
'twas the form of the spectre hound.

There is plenty to interest you ghost hunters if you care to Google “Black Shuck”.
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Postby old-git » 19 Oct 2007, 20:21

Thanks for the interesting info Harassed. 8)
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Re: Nelson Street / Priory Lane

Postby EWW » 24 Mar 2009, 11:57

Priory Lane drawn 1853.

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Postby Mivalanchi » 24 Mar 2009, 17:42

EWW wrote:WALTER DEXTER ARTIST LIVED IN THE OLD VAIANT SAILOR PUB.
AND THE PAINTING HE IS WORKING ON IS THE PICTURE THAT
TED POSTED.
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Went along to the customs house this lunchtime to the exhibition.
the Mayor formally unveiled a copy of Walter Dexter's painting which Lynn presented to the people of Vancouver c 1938
Nice to see the natural colouring of the painting

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Re: Nelson Street / Priory Lane

Postby Owen » 28 Dec 2010, 19:55

My maternal Grandmother's Great Grandfather was the Publican of The Valiant Sailor from about 1854, John Owen, according to the census of 1861 he as still going strong at 78 years old!
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Re: Nelson Street / Priory Lane

Postby EWW » 28 Dec 2010, 19:59

VALIANT SAILOR KINGS LYNN index
2 NELSON STREET
PRIORY LANE STONEGATE WARD FULL LICENCE CLOSED c1924
KINGS LYNN PETTY SESSION REGISTERS PS 4/3/1 to PS 4/3/3 ( August 1872 to 1956 )
W & T BAGGE from 1820
RICHARD BAGGE 1848 to 1885 ( Lease )
THOMAS EDWARD BAGGE Purchased 1885
RICHARD LUDWIG BAGGE to closure 1924
Licensees :
WILLIAM WOOD by 1735 - 1764
.
SAMUEL BARRY 1822 - 1830
ROBERT SMITH DUNCANSON 1836 - 1839
WILLIAM LEMON 1841 - 1848
EDMUND GREEN ( 22 )
and / or
ELIZABETH HOOKS ( 38 ) 1851
JOHN OWEN
& master mariner
( Maria Owen appears as victualler in the 1861 & 1871 census ) by 1854
RICHARD HOWES 26.06.1882
JOHN HELMAN HOWARD
( also found as John Hillman Howard ) 16.11.1891
WILLIAM FULLER 11.04.1904
JAMES DOCKING 11.10.1909
JOHN WILLIAM BELL 10.10.1911
JOHN SMITH 06.04.1914
JOHN WILLIAM BELL 02.10.1916

Nelson Street was previously known as Lath Street.

A building is known to have been standing on this site in the late 1400's.

Building substantially rebuilt by the mid 1500's.

Possibly an inn from the late 1600's.

Appears in the 1728 Sessions Minutes.

Building offered for sale by the Ecclesiastical Commissioners from c1869. Purchased by Thomas Edward Bagge in 1885.

Referred for Compensation 04.02.1924.
Licence extinct 21.01.1925
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