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Postby TK843 » 03 Dec 2006, 17:13

I would say old git that the picture you have put on is related to the plan. You can see the tables running diagonally across the market place. The round building at the top and the two curving structures coming off it.
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Postby EWW » 03 Dec 2006, 19:22

DON'T KNOW IF THIS GOES WITH THE OTHER PIC.
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Postby TK843 » 03 Dec 2006, 23:55

The date of the second drawing does not match with the first as it states 30th Aug 1711. This would fit with the fact that Robert Walpole, one time MP for the town lived 1676 to 1745. Presumably the buildings shown have been there for some time possibly erected in 1711 by an architect called Henry Ball or Bett. I am gueeing that Area Mercatoria is the Market Place but cannot guess what or who Berney Majoratu was.
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Postby old-git » 04 Dec 2006, 18:21

Yes TK the dates don't match. Henry Bell was the architect and according to Hillen it was finished in 1710 and was regarded as "one of the handsomest market crosses in the kingdom." With shops and shambles either side. (I have read somewhere that the fish market was at the back).

Apparently it was partly built upon an arch, turned over a well on the east side and over time settled and lent to the west. It was demolished after 120 years. The materials, sold by public auction (£160), were bought by Sir W J Ffolkes and used in the construction of the lodge at Hillington.

Nor can I guess what or who Berney Majoratu was. :smt102
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Postby EWW » 04 Dec 2006, 19:13

Put all those words into latin seach areas on the web, zilch. The nearest
I could come to Majoratu translated out to Head Honcho, or Chief Steward.
Will ask the prof tomorrow.
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Postby teddybear1959 » 04 Dec 2006, 22:19

My translation is John Berney, Mayor, Henry Bell, Architect.

If John Berney was the Mayor at the time, I don't know.

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Postby TK843 » 04 Dec 2006, 22:53

I think ipud means "at" but I did fail my GCSE,in 1963, Lennam Regis is obviously Kings Lynn , cum macellis could mean with the butchers (or slaughterhouse or abbatoir)


finita would be "completed " I think..

By the way don't put Ipud into an american search site, its surprising wahat you come up with !!!
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Postby teddybear1959 » 04 Dec 2006, 23:01

Well, should I or shouldn't I.

I just have to now don't I?

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Postby ANDY P » 07 Dec 2006, 09:12

this is some of All Saints School think could be visit by Queen mum (1951)
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Postby TK843 » 11 Dec 2006, 18:53

No doubt you erudite gentlemen already know this but I have just discovered that the word Shambles (shown on the curved buildings on the plan) comes from an old english word meaning "benches for the display of meat" and was used to name streets and areas where the butchers were. Hence its use to mean a mess nowadays as it came from descriptions of a battlefield with blood etc all around.
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Postby old-git » 12 Dec 2006, 19:19

Thank TK, I knew about the butchers bit but did not know the meaning today came from the battlefield. 8)

Found a translation for the Latin. -

'This market colonnade, together with the provision markets placed on both sides and the fish market at the rear was brought forward entirely at the cost of gentlemen from the county as well as inhabitants of the town for public use and ornament. Let it be said that this work, begun under the auspices of Charles Turner Mayor in the year 1707, was finished by John Berny, Mayor in 1710, by Henry Bell, architect.'
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Postby ANDY P » 16 Mar 2007, 15:14

from 1812 history of lynn
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