Sunday night in Hunstantons KIT KAT

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Re: Sunday night in Hunstantons KIT KAT

Postby Boxman » 07 Jan 2019, 15:03

Hi Boston ,Happy New Year to you, I haven't been on here for a while,pleased to see you are still bringing all these lovely memories of a fantastic era. I'm hoping that the Vampires you mentioned at the Rampant Horse was our group, I remember playing there , "All my Lovin" was my alltime favourite Beatles number, in fact I was still doing it last year with a uke group I was in. We weren't good enough to get a booking downstairs but i remember Tony Pull arranging for us to play in their break upstairs with their gear,but as you said most people flocked downstairs as they did each week,to hear the more well known guest group.
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Re: Sunday night in Hunstantons KIT KAT

Postby 8 boston square » 09 Jan 2019, 02:44

Hello Boxman yes it is your Vampires I am talking about this was the night I came along with Dave Yardley, he joined you as vocalist and rhythm guitar and I as manager, as you did not have one. The Vampires, dressed in all black( black jeans and black roll neck thin jumpers as per the Beatles ) with red capes always did a great job on the Beatles tracks I think the lead vocalist was Ray, dark haired and very thin? The Rampant Horse was our first encounter, a short would rewarding coming together, Tech got in the way!
Now to clear up a point about " the girl from Ipanema", Ipanema is not between Thornham and Brancaster as some think, nor is it the nick name of Whaplode it is actually southern suburb of Rio de Janiero, ah I can imagine Danny strolling along the beach there eyeing up the local talent, got to be better than Whaplode !
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Re: Sunday night in Hunstantons KIT KAT

Postby 8 boston square » 12 Jan 2019, 04:40

Boxman, I think I must have departed Hunstanton by the time you got your appearance upstairs at the Kit Kat, I don't recall Tony Pull playing with the Offbeats, lead guitars for me were Roger and Mick, I think it was 1968 when I moved to Peterborough and then onto Flitwick in Bedfordshire.
Lets now have look at the first 5 tracks for the evening 's 2nd half.
1. "All my Loving." The Beatles.
2. "Honey Honey." Abba.
3. "Rather Be." Clean Bandit.
4. "Melody AM." Royksopp.
5. "Girl from Ipanema." Sergio Mendez and Brazil 66.
AT number 6 lets go back to the summer of 1963, this is the follow up to "Please Please Me." from the Beatles, the much anticipated "From Me to You." A very short track, under 2 minutes but very catchy non the less and confirmed that the Beatles were going to be around for a while and not a one hit wonder.
Number 7 another instrumental but surprisingly this from Abba! The year is 1976 but it was released in 1977, there are lots of versions of this track featuring German Umpah bands, bagpipes and often played at Military Tottoos, any guesses yet?
A stirring rendition of "Arrival" Lots of versiosn on youtube and it seems to go down jolly well which ever version you hit on, well worth having a look, especially the German from Munich.
At number 8 we go back to the 60's again, it really was a good decade for music, so, 1967 then and another old favourite we have "Music to Watch Girls go by'" from Andy Williams. Didn't we all watch the girls go by, along the prom or where ever we happened to be? Girls did you notice us watching?
For number 9 we jump forward again to 1977, 70's were not so bad at times either but I never thought it at the time. who remembers "Love is in the Air." by John Paul Young?
Last week we were with "The Girl from Ipanema" which is in the south of Rio, for number 10 we stay in Rio and head for its most famous beach, it here that meet Rico and his mates, yes its Barry Manilow and "Copacabana." What a cracking track this was and still is
Dont forget that all my suggestions and choices are what I thought Danny and the Offbeats would do a great version of and that what you have to imagine, Danny singing with backing from Nick and the Offbeats playing, so bearing that in mind what do you think?
Next week 11-15 inclusive, more super tracks and one big surprise which will stun you, I always thought it was a great track, it was written by a dancer/choreographer but although it was offered to others there were no takers so she recorded it herself, a one hit wonder from ................you will have to wait till next week.
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Re: Sunday night in Hunstantons KIT KAT

Postby 8 boston square » 14 Jan 2019, 13:27

GIBSOB GUITARS.
Last year the company was in dire straights, nothing to with Mark Knofler or his band I hasten to add, but, the vultures were circling and the future was not looking good, July 2018 seemed to be the date when all would be revealed so what has happened to the Iconic American Guitar brand?
They did file for bankruptcy which does not sound good but t gave them more time to sort themselves out, December 4th saw the Memphis guitar factory close and all production is done in Nashville, they have a new CEO formerly with Levi and it looks like they will exiting bankruptcy this spring. I have no idea what went on behind the scenes but I am glad they will continue into the future, they were always part of the Kit Kat scene for me, all the lead guitars played one Gibson or another, did not look as good as a Fender Stratocaster maybe but they sure did sound good, especially in the hands of the Offbeats lead guitarists.
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Re: Sunday night in Hunstantons KIT KAT

Postby 8 boston square » 19 Jan 2019, 03:22

GIBSOB guitars indeed, Gibson!!! 100 lines!!
So far then the first 10 tracks went like this:-
1. "All my Loving." by the Beatles.
2. "Honey Honey." Abba.
3. "Rather Be." Clean Bandit.
4. "Melody AM." Royksopp.
5. "Girl from Ipanema. Sergio Mendez and Brazil 66.
6. "From me to You." The Beatles.
7. "Arrival" Abba.
8. "Music to Watch Girl go by." Andy Williams.
9. "Love is in the Air." John Paul Young.
10. "Copacobana." Barry Manilow.
So now on to number 11-15 and at number 11 we slow things down but still stay continue with the latin theme, a good band from southern California but played music from over the border, never heard of a tribute band for Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass, surely it would go down well dont you think, he recorded some really tip top tracks but the one I have chosen for Danny to sing and I hope Nigel can play the trumpet is a slow number from 1968, "This guy's in love with you."
Number 12 is an interesting track that I referred to last week, from 1981 this track was written by a dancer/choreographer and we have Nigel back on the keyboards for this American College themed cheer leaders number, have you guessed yet that its Toni Basil and "Hey Mickey." Surprised? I thought this was really a happy upbeat number at the time which got into the UK top 5, no follow ups that I recall, another one hit wonder!
We go back to 1965 for Number 13 and a group from Manchester whose lead singer was once had a spot in Coronation Street. Another good band from that era its Hermans Hermits with "Shes a must to avoid" or as I used to sing "She's a Muscalar Boy." Always looked forward to their new releases thay were lucky enough to have some very good songs.
We now rocket forward all the way to 1998, when this track came out it was played so much it was that popular, always got people up ono the dance floor at the end of the evening, remember people did not dance until right at the end then bands might just as well come on at 10 minutes to closing time play 3 and go home, how things had changed since the Kit Kat, so then the track at 14 in "Dance the Night Away" by the Mavericks. (Not Bart and Bret that used to me on ITV on Sunday nights I hasten to add.).
At 15 we travel back in time to 1982 ( not much to go forward to was there all the good stuff had just about been discovered). 1982 was the time of the "New Romantics" whatever that was or were but some good stuff around at the time usually with an accompanying video, it was all the rage then and of course miming on the video but a track which will always say what the Kit Kat was like on a Sunday night............"Fantastic Day." by Haircut 100.
Off on holiday next weekend down to Hua Hin and Cha-Am on the west coast of the Gulf of Thailand so will have to see how packing and preparations are going due back the following Sunday, you might have to wait for the numbers 16 onwards.
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Re: Sunday night in Hunstantons KIT KAT

Postby 8 boston square » 03 Feb 2019, 02:50

I have now returned from my little jaunt down by the coast, very nice it was too, sun all day and a very pleasant 30c with a sea breeze, not a bit like you are experiencing. Lots of Danes and Norwegians where we stayed, all there for 6-8 weeks. First stop the hotel was full of Dutch, luckily they all speak very good English!
So now back to the main event and as usual I will recap what has gone before.

1. "All my Loving" by the Beatles.
2."Honey Hone" by Abba.
3."Rather Be" by Clean Bandit.
4."Melody AM" by Royksopp.
5."Girl from Ipanema" by Sergio Mendez and Brazil 66.
6. "From me to You" by the Beatles.
7."Arrival" by Abba.
8"Music to Watch Girls go by" by Andy Williams.
9."Love is in the Air" by John Paul Young.
10."Copacobana" by Barry Manilow.
11."This Guy]s in Love with You" by Herb Alpert and the Tijuanna Brass.
12."Hey Mickey" by Toni Basil.
13."She's a must to Aviod" by Hermans Hermits.
14."Dance the Night Away" by the Mavericks.
15."Fantastic Day" by Haircut 100.
so now we are up to date lets get onto number 16 and again another surprise for everyone. Danny is off for a moment for an instrumental and a swift change around for personel. Derek on the drums, Nigel on sax, Nick on keyboards and for the first time, the old Sabres bass player who I never saw play with the Offbeats and whose name completly escapes me at this moment, we call it a senior moment and go back to 1981 when a new tv series is starting on BBC1, the track was written and performed ( I think) by George Fenton as soon as I tell you the star of the show you will know its the Jersey detective with John Nettles and the track is the theme from Bergerac. Gives all the players a chance to show what they can do.
Number 17 sees go back to the 1960's to 1968 to be precice and its a London band who came to Lynn and its not the first of their tracks I have featured, step forward the Kinks with "Days."
Number 18 I had previously mentioned about an ending track but not in this compilation so lets keep things slow with Queen and "The Days of our Lives."
19 and its back to 1966 and bearing in mind that I have just returned from the beach its rather fitting that we have a Beach Boys number now so how about "Wouldn't it be Nice" Always a happy sound from the "Boys", the sound of summer and with all that snow I hope this track does the trick!
At number 20 its back to Abba with a 1980's rocker called "on and on and on." The video of this track featured one of the group in a football shirt, but which one and what was the football team? Answer next week.
Now as I have used a good few tracks from the 1960's and everyone knowing how short they were I think we could squeeze a few extras ones next week, what do you think? Stay tuned!!
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Re: Sunday night in Hunstantons KIT KAT

Postby EWW » 06 Feb 2019, 14:49

Heres one for you Boston. This comes from the monthly free give away Hunstanton magazine.

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Re: Sunday night in Hunstantons KIT KAT

Postby 8 boston square » 07 Feb 2019, 11:36

Pete Carter was the name I forgot from last weeks post to be playing bass on "Bergerac" so apologies to Pete. I liked to go and see the Sabres whenever they played at the Casino/Sunset Rooms they were a good band, I never saw them at the Kit Kat, for one of two reasons I think, either too expensive or associated with the rival dance hall, take your pick!

Sounds Force 5, got to confess I have never heard of them, perhaps I had moved away by the time they came along but it does raise an interesting point in time, I think that point for me was Hermans Hermits. Before that time every group or band that I can recall was "the" as in Cliff Richard and THE Shadows, THE Beatles, THE Rolling Stones, THE Searchers, Shane Fenton and THE Fentones which identified them as THE one and only, it was the same locally with Danny Ford and THE Offbeats, Denny Raven and THE Sabres, THE Tea Time Four and lots more of course, then we started to get bands like Hermans Hermits, Queen, Haircut one hundred, ABC, Level 42. I don't include ABBA in this as they were the initials of the group members and "THE" at the front would not have sounded right. I have to confess I liked the "THE" at the beginning of the band it just seemed so right to me, although you could probably discuss it down the pub for a long time, so, that your topic for tonight! Mine a pint of Elgood's Greyhound by the way.
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Re: Sunday night in Hunstantons KIT KAT

Postby 8 boston square » 09 Feb 2019, 04:15

Well well well after me picking "Bergerac" as a track for the evening, forgetting Pete Carter's name to play bass and now it seems that there is to be a new series of the drama, you could not make it up! Often re makes do not live up to the billing of the original but we still like to see the return and hope for the best, sometimes they do get it right, it will certainly remind me of old haunts and memories of glorious sunny days spent over there.
So now I will write up the whole of the second half next week but those bonus extra tracks which have made by the short 1960's tracks are coming up right now.
We ended up last week with number 20 which was "On and on and on" from Abba which was a good rocker so continuing in that vein and go back to 1985 for "Walking on Sunshine." from Katrina and the Waves, can you not move with this track? That was number 21.
Now at 22 we again go back to the 1960's to an artist we heard regularly where Danny had to change the gender its Billie Davis from 1968 with "Angel of the Morning." We have slowed things somewhat now so we will keep it that way for number 24, an American all girl group and I think a suitable end to the evening, the band are The Bangles and the track is "Eternal Flame." So with that its goodnight everyone and see you next week.
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Re: Sunday night in Hunstantons KIT KAT

Postby 8 boston square » 16 Feb 2019, 03:17

Here is the full run down for the 2nd half of Sunday Night at Hunstanton's Kit Kat.

1. All my Loving by the Beatles.
2. Honey, Honey, by ABBA.
3. Rather Be by Clean Bandit.
4. Melody AM by Royksopp.
5. Girl from Ipanema by Sergio Mendez and Brazil 66.
6. From me to You by the Beatles.
7. Arrival by ABBA.
8. Music to Watch Girls go by. by Andy Williams.
9. Love is in the Air. by John Paul Young.
10. Copacobana by Barry Manilow.
11. This Guy's in Love by Herb Alpert and the Tijuanna Brass.
12. Hey Mickey by Toni Basil.
13. Must to Avoid by Hermans Hermits.
14. Dance the Night away by the Mavericks.
15. Fantastic Day by Haircut 100.
16. Bergerac by George Fenton.
17. Days by the Kinks.
18. Days of our Lives by Queen.
19. Wouldn't it be Nice by the Beach Boys.
20. On and on and on by ABBA.
21. Walking on Sunshine by Katrina and the Waves.
22. Angel of the Morning by Bille Davis.
23. Eternal Flame by the Bangles.
Just one more thing to mention a few posts ago I said on the ABBA track "On and on and on" one of the group was wearing a football shirt on the official video and I forgot the week after to reveal the answer, now I am sure I am getting old, does this happen to you? Things that happen years ago are still recoverable but what happend 5 minutes ago is often a mystery!
Anyway the answer is Anifrid who was wearing an Arsenal shirt, circa 1979/80, perhaps not too much of a surprise as she is Norwegian and there are lot Gooners there so I hear, nice to see a shirt not looking like a billboard full of adverts, they were the days when sport had not yet become a business, no going back now.
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Re: Sunday night in Hunstantons KIT KAT

Postby 8 boston square » 23 Feb 2019, 05:19

Now the alternative Sunday night is complete, how do you think it compares to my first choice alternative night I would have liked to hear the Offbeats play? I think they would both have been good nights, indeed a combination from both would I am sure have been another good night out, we all have different tastes don't we, even with groups or singers that we rave about its not all the stuff they release that we think are great, some of Cliff's tracks did nothing for me, same for Elvis, Queen, ABBA the list is infinite and then some bands I did not like much at all would surprise with a track that I did really like. Think of how many people live on the planet and no two people are exactly the same when you think of all the different variations that make us who we are, really amazing when you think about it, so, when we look back at those Sunday Nights we all had our favourites and our fillers, no two people the same and yet there we were having the time of our lives and it really was don't you think or is that the way we choose to remember things? Funny old world but its the one we live in, its changed a lot since those Kit Kat times in the 60's things were very different then, change happens all the time and we have no choice but to adapt as it happens. I am guessing that most people who read this thread are probably at or above pension age so looking at next years tax allowance I see we have a good rise of 650 GBP that I can adapt to but the following year we all get no rise which is not good, either way we have to adapt it is out of our control.
A last thought on Sunday Nights at the Kit Kat and something for everyone to think about. I never remember going home, walking up the Green thinking that it was better last week, never, every night was a great night out. That was the standard that Danny Ford and the Offbeats set for themselves and for us, the tracks they chose and musical interpretation, quality of musicianship, tip top and all for two bob, incredible and it set the standard for the other groups in the area as well because they would be compared to a pretty special band that we had the pleasure to enjoy every Sunday Night for just two bob, two bob!
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Re: Sunday night in Hunstantons KIT KAT

Postby 8 boston square » 02 Mar 2019, 03:33

If we go back to page 20, seems a long time ago now doesn't it, I was recalling the 2nd half of a typical Sunday Night at the Kit Kat and at number 19 was a pleasant little track as an instrumental, it was a track a liked and I thought I knew the words to the song, alas I was wrong but what was this track doing on a Sunday Night, this had a always been a mystery to me but this year, after all this time I think I have solved it and the track was …………."Never on a Sunday."
"Never on a Sunday" was a film from 1960, set in Greece and starred Melina Mercouri and Jules Dassin. It was the story of a lady who worked mainly at night with members of the opposite sex, but, never on a Sunday, that was her day of rest!
Jules Dassin was a visiting American who wanted to try and educate Melina and give her a new life. The title track was played on a local instrument which looked a bit like a mandolin but was called a "Bouzouki". It was a catchy tune and was recorded as a song by Petula Clake, Connie Francis and The Chordettes but how did the offbeats manage to come up with this track recorded first in 1960 to play to us in 1963?
The answer comes by way of artists and groups I had only had a passing knoweldge off until I went to the Kit Kat, Fats Domino.......oh yeah the fat black bloke on Blueberry Hill, did he do anything else? Chuck Berry........oh yeah he did a few songs but not too keen on his voice actually, the Ventures........oh yeah they did "Walk Dont Run'" like that but that was 1960 what have they been doing since then? Been active all the time it seemed but not on my radar, "Perfidia"/No Tress passing" etc etc. After three years it was The Ventures who released "Never on a Sunday" on their "Telstar" LP and knowing what a big fan the Offbeats were of The Ventures the mystery was solved! Taken a while but tick that one off, there are always mysteries in life that we never solve and that is probably a good thing so we can keep looking, the 2 parts of Majorca I nver got to, amybe I would go back but I never did.
The Ventures were a good band, America's answer to the Shadows and yes they did record "Apache" as well, I had a couple of their LPs "1,000,000$ Weekend." and "Golden Greats." two excellent collections with no fillers! Looking on their recording careers you only say that they were prolific and as far at the Kit Kat was concerned they were part of the wallpaper, part of the Offbeats, part of our lives.
Nver on a Sunday but always on a Sunday.........funny old world.
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Re: Sunday night in Hunstantons KIT KAT

Postby 8 boston square » 10 Mar 2019, 03:45

Sunday Nights at the Kit Kat for me were the highlight of the week, the best entertainment around and at a price that I could afford, going there for the first time in summer of '62 opened my eyes to all the other places where I might have a good time as well. the town and village halls, youth clubs and Corn Exchange, places where local and national talent was available. I look back on that time as a very different time to today but in some ways also very similar after all we still need and have entertainment but it now comes in a different way and a different form. All part of the layers that make up our lives.
Back in the early 1960's I went to the Young Conservatives and to the local Youth Club but I found it strange that I was just about the only one who went to both, they were both layers of my entertainment back drop and they then led to other, the youth club to 5-side football at the Corn Exchange and the Young Con's to "what are we doing Saturday night?" So there was a fair bit to do mostly arranged by ourselves rather than it being on offer. The main thing on offer stepping out of the home was "The pictures" The Theatre Royal, The Pilot, The Majestic and the Capitol, only 2 now survive in a slightly different form as time has moved on. The Capitol only had one show on a Sunday, started at 7pm and was almost always a "X" rated film. Over time I went to all of those cinemas but as time went on and I grew older I found I went less and less I did wonder at one time whether their time had come and they would all close but thanks to some good films coming along they still form part of the entertainment back drop. Even in the early 60's there were some good films to go and see and it was a potential intro for a date with someone from the opposite sex, if you took someone from the opposite sex to the Kit Kat you might lose them to someone else! The Kit kat was for friends only.
Next Wdnesday we are off to Pattaya ( Thailand's answer to Las Vegas ) then onto Mae Phim a quiet seaside resort where some snorkeling beckons so I will be back with more memories of the Kit Kat times and the 60's 20/21st in the meantime amuse yourselves!
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Re: Sunday night in Hunstantons KIT KAT

Postby 8 boston square » 23 Mar 2019, 02:49

Now back from my little trip down the coast very nice little break just a week before the General Election here so the Junta running the place decided that from 6pm on Saturday last until 6pm on the following Sunday and same again this weekend that no alcohol will be served in shops, bars or restaurants, I will refrain from further comment other than to say violaters would be threatened with imprisonment! Needless to say we found a bar only to willing sell us a bottle.
I was talking about our entertainment layers of the early 60's a couple of weeks ago, from youth clubs to the dance halls, village halls and cinemas, I went to them all especially the cinemas you know the Theatre Royal, The Majestic, The Pilot and The Capitol, probably more than what I thought at the time its was an important form of entertainment so let me share with you some of the films I saw at the time.
Lawrence of Arabia, Manchurian Candidate, El Cid, The Young Ones, Summer Holiday, Hard Days Night, Help, Follow that Dream, Spartacus, The 300 Spartans, The Birds, Tom Jones, The System, Dr No, From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, Thunderball, The Ipcress File, Our Man Flint, Mary Poppins, The Guns of Navorone, Von Ran's Express, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, King Kong v Godzilla, Come September, The Carpetbaggers, Fantastic Voyage, Operation Crossbow, the Carry-on films and the Hammer House Horrors offerings non the names that I can remember!! Ah the Jungle Book. Did you see any of these, I guess you probably did going to the "flicks" was popular at the time and at that time going down the pub was well I was not old enough so that was a layer of our entertainment that I had only experienced on Friday night at the Conservative Club in Hunstanton and Sunday Night at the Kit Kat.
Today it is so very different, I see people everywhere hypnotized by their Smart Phones which seems to be more important than the company they are with, so nowadays less conversation and things to learn that you did not know, some may say its progress, anyone know how to switch this thing on or off!!
Whilst I was away I did manage to get in my snorkeling and most enjoyable it was as well lots to see the highlight of which was seeing a Barracuda skimming across the water at high speed, its said they can reach almost 30 mph! That was on the Sunday and the evening found us in the Hotel Restaurant when the back ground music produced a track that I remember from Sunday Night at the Kit Kat, what an amazing coincidence, another mystery where this one came from as well, well that is for next week and the clue is another 1960 film theme.
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Re: Sunday night in Hunstantons KIT KAT

Postby 8 boston square » 30 Mar 2019, 04:30

The 1960 film was "Exodus" I never saw the film but it was about Israel and the reason I believe that the Offbeats played it is that one of their favourite groups played it so you wont be surprised to hear that that group came from Washington state in the good old USA, The Ventures.
Last week I was talking about the films of the time and last night I watched "Our Man Flint" its still a very watchable film, James Coburn is tip top as America's version of James Bond and Gila Golan well what can you say what a babe!
The other big layer of our entertainment back drop was, if you were not goin out was the television, hard to think of life without it today and yet I can remember in 1952 whilst living in Mansfield we got a 12" black and white tv with a huge cabinet and all we had was BBC, about 3 or 4 years later ITV appeared but our set could not receive ITV! Friends across the road bought a Pye Continental 17" set with a dial so you could switch between Itv and BBC. No push button or remote controls in those days! ITV started in the London area with Associated Redifussion having the franchise Monday to Friday, at 7pm then ATV had the weekend franchise. ATV had the Midlands franchise from Monday to Friday whilst in the north Granada had the Monday to Friday slots. Midlands and Northern ITV at the weekends had ABC to look after them. Gradually the smaller ITV companies sprang up like Tyne Tees, Scottish, Southern, Television South West, Channel Islands and in our part of the world it was Anglia. Some parts of the schedules were national but local content was also a requirement who can forget the Knight on horseback which we first saw 27/10/1959! Peter Fenn I remember he seemed to be everywhere on the local content ( not surprisingly really as he was a director of the company) and his theme tune "WHEELS". In those days ITV had some really good shows and it showed up the BBC content so it was not a surprise that people did stay in and watch what was on offer. The big ITV companies would buy in shows from abroad and commission works here in the UK and then invite the smaller companies who did not have the financial clout to take some of the shows for their own schedules. Although all was in black and white and 405 lines TV was good in those days, well I might put it another way and say that I choose to remember some good programmes, there must have been a load of rubbish as well just like in the music scene. bits you just filter out and forget.
So next week I will try and jog your memories with what we might have been watching on TV if we did not step out in our dancing gear.
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